tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6902297433672101641.post167721428791182691..comments2017-09-28T15:05:33.863-07:00Comments on Awaken Oh my soul!: Bishops "court"Jonathanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10249646410336895150noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6902297433672101641.post-58343371966503283762015-02-23T17:44:38.962-08:002015-02-23T17:44:38.962-08:00Bishop: "we don't go by what is in the sc...Bishop: "we don't go by what is in the scriptures, we go by what is in the current doctrine of the church."<br /><br />The church has really changed. When I was a teenager, the general authorities' attitude was that if what they said didn't square with scripture, we should discard it. Now, we should discard the scriptures.<br /><br />ToniLJnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08336442943292813905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6902297433672101641.post-4578847442635953742015-02-05T12:09:51.433-08:002015-02-05T12:09:51.433-08:00Hi Tyson, I posted this on the other post comment ...Hi Tyson, I posted this on the other post comment section as well, but in case you don't see it I'll post my same response here. Hope it helps. <br />Here is the quote from President Monson about his testimony of Christ. I paraphrased it as I could not quote it it entirety and this interview was all completely off the tip of my tongue. No notes, no preparation, just rapid fire Q&A. It is not exact, but I believe my paraphrase gets to the nut of his testimony. He definitely uses an "as if" type mentality as Denver Snuffer has outlined in Passing the Heavenly Gift, with his usage of Joseph's vision of Christ making it sound like he has had the same vision, but the whole thing is based on Joseph's and "others" eye witness accounts, not his own. His testimony is as "one of His special witness on earth", whatever that means. Denver also covers that in the same book. Sorry for no references there, but Denver hasn't put it up on kindle for me to copy and paste!! Basically Denver points out that they use "as if" and this "special witness" phrase to make it seem like more has been received without perjuring themselves before God. Good luck with that! Here it is. Let me know what you think of my paraphrase. <br /><br />"I have read—and I believe—the testimonies of those who experienced the grief of Christ’s Crucifixion and the joy of His Resurrection. I have read—and I believe—the testimonies of those in the New World who were visited by the same risen Lord. I believe the testimony of one who, in this dispensation, spoke with the Father and the Son in a grove now called sacred and who gave his life, sealing that testimony with his blood. Declared he: 'And now, after the many testimonies which have been given of him, this is the testimony, last of all, which we give of him: That he lives! For we saw him, even on the right hand of God; and we heard the voice bearing record that he is the Only Begotten of the Father.' The darkness of death can always be dispelled by the light of revealed truth. 'I am the resurrection, and the life,' spoke the Master. 'Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you.' Over the years I have heard and read testimonies too numerous to count, shared with me by individuals who testify of the reality of the Resurrection and who have received, in their hours of greatest need, the peace and comfort promised by the Savior." (He is Risen!, Sunday Morning Session, April, 2010 Session; footnotes omitted.) ...<br /> <br />As one of His special witnesses on earth today, this glorious Easter Sunday, I declare that this is true, in His sacred name--even the name of Jesus Christ, our Savior--amen.<br />He Is Risen! April GC, Monson <br />http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2010/04/he-is-risen?lang=eng<br /><br />I just am not willing to put something into his mouth he refuses to clarify or comment on. Reminds me of a classic dialogue:<br /><br />Buttercup: "I got married today"<br />Wesley: "did you say I do?"<br />Buttercup: "well we sort of skipped that part"<br />Wesley: "well if you didn't say it, you didn't do it, isn't that right prince Humperdink?"<br />Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10249646410336895150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6902297433672101641.post-9915801577801888102015-02-05T07:28:27.868-08:002015-02-05T07:28:27.868-08:00Do you have a source for the Monson talk? Don'...Do you have a source for the Monson talk? Don't see it in April 2010. (all four talks).TysonHunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01235363101451249100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6902297433672101641.post-1789898091511440982015-01-28T13:10:09.225-08:002015-01-28T13:10:09.225-08:00I thank you for your testimony of the Lord and sor...I thank you for your testimony of the Lord and sorrow for the blindness of others.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13745901786962474174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6902297433672101641.post-68098157927617451062015-01-27T18:58:11.559-08:002015-01-27T18:58:11.559-08:00John, I am going through a similar action. Here i...John, I am going through a similar action. Here is a paragraph from my last letter to my bishop:<br /><br />Let me ask you, Bishop. What harm would there be in me having a temple recommend? We’ve already established that I love and cherish the temple. I have not and would not do anything to desecrate it. I never did and never would promote any questionable doctrine in the temple. I attended and served with great love and respect. In whatever discourses I might have had on Facebook in which I am accused of promoting false doctrine, I can assure you that none of it would in any way convey disrespect for the temple. My attendance is certainly not going to distract from the spirit in the temple, and I am quite confident that my service there actually enhanced the experience of the patrons, because I served with great love and reverence. In short, if I were to stand before the Lord Himself, and if he were to ask me, as President Wilson so often does, “Do you have a testimony of Jesus Christ as your Savior”, my answer would be a resounding “Yes!” Then, when he said, “Are you worthy to be in the temple”, my answer, likewise, would be a resounding and enthusiastic, “Yes!” Furthermore, He has told me Himself that I am worthy to be in His house.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6902297433672101641.post-68131109657108650332015-01-26T15:59:13.987-08:002015-01-26T15:59:13.987-08:00I'm inspired by your commitment to follow God ...I'm inspired by your commitment to follow God and not man. Even if you are cast out, if it is for the Lord's sake it will be a blessing. "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you." Matthew 5:10-12Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com